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custom embroidery? I'm looking to have some designs i made in photoshop embroidered onto some hats. Any ideas where i can get this done?

I would like to start a printing/custom patch embroidery business, what kind of affordable machines can I get? I would like to find an affordable alternative to the larger more expensive machines. For the printing I would like to find something that I can use to print out business cards (dbl sided) on heavy card stock (and be able to hook up to my computer) same goes for the embroidery (I would like to make custom patches) if anyone has any ideas or advise that would be greatly appreciated...

Is custom embroidery ridiculously expensive? Was thinking about going to a place a few miles from my house called Heritage Embroidery. They boast all their cutting is done with lasers which I assume would inflate the price because idiots think it's better. But how much for a custom sweatshirt (buying the blank shirt and obviously embroidery both from them) with a medium-sized logo would be usual?

I'd like to buy a custom made embroidery to add on my suit, how do I do? As the title says; I'd like to buy a custom made embroidery to add on my suit! What companies sell custom made embroideries of high quality to sweden? How do i add the embroidery to my suit, are there any special method to do it? I don't know whether the embroidery is attached to the suit in the factory or not. If that is the case, I am willing to buy a completely new suit, but from where can I do that?

Is there a Bay Area company that will do custom embroidery on a single hat? A few years ago there used to be a kiosk in local shopping malls called "The Cap Factory" (I visited the one in Valley Fair in San Jose). They took a business card and scanned the company logo into a computer and then a sophisticated sewing machine replicated it (plus whatever else you had designed on to a custom hat). The result was a custom logo or message or whatever on your new hat for $45. It got cheaper with more hats. I dont think they are around anymore but surely the technology still exists. Does anyone know where I can buy a single customized hat here in the Bay Area? Thanks Steve

Where can I find a few price lists for the cost of custom embroidery for shirts and caps? Specifically, I'm looking for a template that does not include the garment, but lists the prices by stitch count and quantity of garments ordered.

What are the people who do custom embroidery called? If I wanted to look up someone like this, what would I search under? Thanks! I'm looking for someone to do embroidery with sequins and beads on a gown :)

Where can I find custom embroidery in Los Angeles on the Westside near 90045 sip code? I need a name tag done for Halloween. I know it's really last minute but I just pulled this costume together last minute. I'm hoping to add a little detail with an embroidered name tag...like the ones mechanics wear on their uniforms. I live in Westchester (next to Marina Del Rey and El Segundo) and I need to find a place that does this and will have it ready by Halloween. Please help! Thanks.

I have blank Lakers jerseys that needs custom embroidery on the back. Does anyone know where can I get it done I recently purchased a couple of blank Lakers jerseys from Ebay that are sold at places like the Team LA store in Staples Center. I looked all over the internet for shops who does custom embroidery but can't seem to find any that would do it unless you purchase their jerseys! I basically have 4 jerseys that I need to have numbers and letters stitched both in the front and back. Does anyone know of any stores in LA that specializes in this who is reputable and does a good job? Thanks!

How do I find an embroidery machine that will do custom logos? I'm looking for an embroidery machine that will do custom logos. I need to upload images (gif/jps whatever) from my PC. All it really needs to handle is one color, but the more the merrier. Would also like it to be able to do at least a couple of fonts so I can write names. Thanks!

where can i get a custom embroidery design if i already have what i want the design on? i want to have words on these beany babies that i already have but where can i go to get them done at

where can we have custom embroidery done? i am a senior this year and our class does not like the normal printing done by the company our school usually uses as it wears off. where can we get custom embroidery done that we can submit our own design and our own jackets if possible (since not everyone agrees on style)

where can i get custom embroidery with beads done in the bay area?

Where can I purchase custom embroidery flip flops if I only need about 20 pairs? I've looked everywhere online and I can't find a retailer that will do custom embroidery on flip flops where the minimum purchase isn't 100 pairs or more. I can find custom ebroidery on everything else.... just not flip flops!

Embroidery / custom crystal design in Los Angeles? I am making a bridal shower gift..I have a white bikini and I want to put 'Mrs. .." on the back of the bottoms. Does anyone know a store nearby the LA area or some idea of how I can get this custom made?

Name for a Custom Embroidery/Bow Business? I am going to be selling bows and embroidered items from my home on the side. I'm wanting a name for my blog. What do you think about, "Making It Ours - Custom Embroidery and Hair Bows"? Any other ideas? I thought about "Kustom Kreations By Jessica"... Thanks in advance!

Custom backpack, not custom embroidery, but given an image... They can make it! Do you know of a company that does this? Or should I consult a local seamstress?

Maxley Markets Company sells logo sports merchandise and does custom embroidery. They are trying to decide whe? Maxley Markets Company sells logo sports merchandise and does custom embroidery. They are trying to decide whether or not to continue embroidery. The following information is available for the segments. Assume that all direct fixed costs could be avoided if a segment is dropped and that the total common fixed costs would remain unchanged if the embroidery were dropped. Embroidery Apparel Sales Sales $120,000 $420,000 Variable Costs $90,000 $220,000 Contribution Margin $30,000 $200,000 Direct Fixed Costs $18,000 $70,000 Allocated Common Fixed Costs $20,000 $70,000 Net Income ($ 8,000) $ 60,000 (a) What would be the impact on profits if embroidery was dropped? (b) Assume that if embroidery was dropped, apparel sales would increase 20%. What is the impact on contribution margin and net income? (c) Give an example of a cost that is not relevant in this analysis.

Where can I buy embroided belts online with embroidery already on it? I dont want custom embroidery. Just an embroidery that already says "taekwondo" or something on it. I need a red belt with embroidery if that helps. Need it within the next 4-5 days so dont got time for anything custom. Please help out.

Custom embroidery in Los Angeles? I want to get towels embroidered in a graffiti font!

where can you get custom embroidery shirts, hats, jackets, and pants the whole uniform.?

For people who live in the Santa Cruz area: Does anyone know of a place that offers custom embroidery and...? ...screened printing etc. for like sports teams or special events. Just a place where you can take t-shirts, armbands, etc. and have them embroidered or screened?

Is there anywhere in Australia that do custom embroidered caps including/with brim embroidery?

What would be the best embroidery machine for starting a small "baby clothes" business? My mom and I are thinking about starting a small business doing embroidery (custom-made to order) on baby-kids items. I am slightly overwhelmed in the selection of embroidery machines! I know that we want one that has the ability to be hooked up to the computer for additional templates. Price really isn't a factor in the decision making. We also want one that has a big enough area to do larger items, like bloomers, or tee shirts and even bags if possible. if any one has any ideas that would great!

what is the best embroidery machine for a small business? What would be the best embroidery machine for starting a small "baby clothes" business? My mom and I are thinking about starting a small business doing embroidery (custom-made to order) on baby-kids items. I am slightly overwhelmed in the selection of embroidery machines! I know that we want one that has the ability to be hooked up to the computer for additional templates. Price really isn't a factor in the decision making. We also want one that has a big enough area to do larger items, like bloomers, or tee shirts and even bags if possible. if any one has any ideas that would great!

where can i custom order flannal shirts,can change the colors of the shirt (optional: embroidery/ added print)? doing this mainly for a class in school. selling apparel at our school and need flannal shirts that we can have our school colors added in and maybe embroidery. embroidery is optional because we know a buisness that does it for us. mainly we just want to change the colors to what we want and have custom print on our flannals. thanks for any replies. also somewhat within reason of price, not many at a school would pay 50.00+ for shirts.

Custom Hat Embroidery? Does anyone know the name of the machine they use at LIDS to custom embroider hats? Possibly where to purchase one

Looking for a custom athletic wear manufacturer with no order min. and low shipping fees.? United States manufacturer is preferred. Drop shipping is necessary with custom embroidery, printing and labels.

Can i get a custom Digitized Embroidery and add it to my embroidery machine? Okae iam a super noob at all of this. I just basically want to get some designs made or digitized but i cant do it myself. So i was going to order some to get done but my questions is- its not really a patch i want to get done but more a design. I want to know is there a machine if any that can add new designs to it....preferably my own custom designs that i will get ordered. I checked the end of the internet and i cant seem to find the answer to this quesion. Thanks in advance. :-)

Custom clothes and embroidery? What kinda business would i be looking for if i wanted clothes embroidered ? Do you know any online companies that could do it for less than 10 people? also, if i was to take my own clothes to a local business would it even be possible for them to embroider it? thanks folks

is there anywhere in Australia that do custom embroidered caps including/with brim embroidery?

Custom Taekwondo Belt Embroidery? I have a taekwondo black belt which i need to have some wording stitched on. Wording is in Chinese / Korean. It would be better if translation from chinese to korean is provided. Cheap & Quality worksmanship wanted.

I need An Embroidery Pattern for my Machine? I need an embroidery pattern customized so that I can put it on t-shirts and totes. I want to use my logo. I accidentally saved it small so is there a place I can submit my image to that can custom me a pattern for my embroidery machine using it? A place that is affordable?

Where can I get a custom embroidered patch made? I want a custom embroidered patch, just one, with a certain design on it. Embroidery machines are a bit out of my budget, so please don't suggest that I buy one. Does anyone know where I can go, online, to get a custom quote for a patch? A legit site that does not require a minimum purchase.

Where can I get custom embroideries on a leather jacket? I'm in the military, and while in a restaurant on base yesterday I saw a Senior Chief who had a gorgeous leather motorcycle jacket with all kinds of custom embroidered patches sewn into it, including mission patches on the shoulders, strings of text on the breast listing his accomplishments, and an enormous mural-like embroidery across the back which depicted a motorcycle and the words "VETS DON'T FORGET." Now, I was afraid to ask him, because he's a Senior Chief and he looked like a serious badass, but WHERE CAN I GET A JACKET LIKE THAT? I can get the jacket itself on my own, but how does one go about getting awesome custom embroideries like that?

Is Customs Embroidery Digitizing is art ? I think that professional embroidery digitizing design services with quick turnaround time is art because without embroidery digitizing specialization you can't make perfect digitizing design. see perfect digitizing design www.powerstitch.com

What would you do with a all plain snapback? I have a all black plain vintage snapback. It has nothing on it. My friends tell me to put something on it. Should I get custom embroidery or leave it plain?

is there a embroidery store in LA can do sewing letters or pictures on sneakers?? i really need your help on this, i need to find a store in LA area that can do custom letters, designs embroidery on the shoes, sneakers. i have a pair of sneakers that i need to get letters put on with... please, i need your help!!!

Where to find a lion rampant embroidery? We are making our very own custom coat of arms and it seems almost impossible to find a lion rampant embroidery pattern that is decent enough to use. i've looked into getting patches made but the min order amount is either huge or they want alot of money for smaller orders. Anyone have ideas where i can find a good pattern to use or get a good price on patches or something...looking for 3" and 6" pattern

Where can I design a custom bowling shirt? I am looking for a website that I can order a customised bowling shirt from. I have googled my brains out, but am having trouble finding something that I am looking for. I would like to customise a collared or polo shirt, with both embroidery on the front (easy to find) but I am having trouble finding a place to upload a big picture onto on the back. Does anyone know of any good sites?

Where can I go to get my own items (about 10) embroidered with people's names? I wanted to get new softball bat backpacks for my team, and the bags offered by custom embroidery companies aren't to my liking. I want to buy a bag from amazon and mail it to or bring it to a company that will embroider the names and logo. Where can I go?

How do I order custom embroidered shirts? I won a dozen custom embroidered shirts on Ebay. I've never had any custom embroidery work done. Honestly I bid just for the hell of it, and ended up winning them ridiculously cheap. So I guess the plan is to have some shirts made and resell em since I really have no use for a dozen identical shirts. I have the image I want to use, but it's on a white background, and I want it on a colored shirt. Do I need to remove the white background, or can I specify the background should be transparent? What format should the image be? I have Photoshop, so any tweaking I gotta do is gonna be in there. Oh, and one more thing, they specified there's a 5,000 stich limit. How do I know how many stiches my image will use? Thanks "ROTFL.... who randomly bids on embroiderd shirts??"? I do. I have a habbit of bidding on things I don't even need when I'm bored. Winning stuff cheap keeps me entertained, lol. One more thing. How do I determine what size my image will be? I know this is alotta questions, but I browsed YA a lil for answers before posting, and didn't find anything. Wow, if I can only do something that's 1" x 0.75", I think I'll just give the shirts to my son and have him give them to his friends at school, lol. Thanks.

Where can I find a good online embroidery store? I am looking to order some custom embroidered items but have no idea where to start

HELP!!! need a custom EMBROIDERED hat(s) for my company I just started!? I've been looking all over google and various search engines and have yet to find a company that has an online hat designer so I can see what my hat(s) look like before I buy a quantity of them. I would like to find a company that does custom embroidery for flat bill caps as previous experiences have turned me away from printed hats. New Era had a very good cap design program but it was only so you could design a cap to win a contest! you couldn't purchase your design! I'm trying to boost the reputation of my new company in my city right now and I was wondering if I could get some referrals to any good websites, thanks!

what is a cute business name for a baby dress boutique? I am opening an online as well as a shop here in town for baby girl dresses custom embroidery baby blankets and bows..etc......anyone have any catchy ideas?

16 year old starting a scrapbooking business? im 16, i already sell custom made dance bags, and do custom embroidery. SHould i add scrapbooking to this? like people giving me their pictures and i making them into a scrapbook? also, how much would you pay for a quality, 20 page 8 1/2 by 11 scrapbook?

I'm looking for a blank vanity brush/mirror set for embroidery.? They are just the metal parts, and you can insert your hand embroidery into them to create a custom heirloom set. Does anyone know where to get some?

Does anyone know of any Custom T-Shirts Designs companies that has dropshipping available? I am looking for companies that specialize in Custom T-shirt Design that has dropshipping available. That specializes on the following: digital printing on apparel 2-7 day delivery t-shirts & sweats gift messages design online screen printing & embroidery

Custom made Varsity Style jackets in Australia? I need about 10 Varsity Style/Letterman Jackets, online or in store that ship too or are located in Australia. We need to get our dancing school logo on the back, and our names on the front, embroidery preferably, but we can always get that done elsewhere in store here. We don't want to fork out 100+ dollars for these jackets each, about 90 dollars max.

Would an Irishman get angry if I were to embroider his name in sequins on the back of all his clothes? What would be your personal reaction if you were to look in your closet and see custom sequin embroidery on the back of all of your clothes?

Brian's SubZero custom glove? I'm ordering a custom subzero catch glove off of goaliemonkey.com and I want to know where on the glove will the custom name embroidery be? If its not on the front I'll get a bright color like pink or something, but if it's on the cuff then i'll get red or black.

Question about making custom boathouse jackets? My crew team wants custom boathouse jackets, but on the online configurator when we try and add (Our town) Crew to the back, it has the letters really small. I tried to make a logo version but it showed even smaller. Also, the logo we made for the front which had (Our town) Crew with oars was a little big and went outside the top area. The jacket is Mission Pullover I, and for the back we want screen print and the front embroidery. How do we fix these problems? Thanks!

What should i get my boyfriend for our 1 year anniversary present? i need help!!!! i have NO CLUE wat to get my bf for our 1 year and its coming up soon! my budget is under $250so far i've gotten/made cookies, coupon book, picture card, Burberry cologne, Locoste shirt, custom hat w/ embroidery, keychain with my pic, reeses, movie card, beat pad... and im running out of options! pleeeeaaaase help! thanks so much!

I need help picking an embroidery machine~!? I know it's still summer, but the sooner I pick this out, the easier it will be for my parents come Christmas. Since it will inevitably be expensive, we need time to bargain hunt. Anyway! I'm looking for something that does normal sewing machine functions, but when plugged into a laptop, the laptop can make it do embroidery designs (custom ones, not the card ones). Something heavy and sturdy is desirable. If anyone knows one that does this, please post the make and model~! Thanks!! I'm not setting out to make great embroidered works of art on the thing--usually just simple 1-2 toned accents, or repeating patterns (like custom eyelet trim). I could technically do it on my current machine, which is actually pretty nice, but doing it uniformly becomes an issue. Generally though, I want one just as good (or better) at sewing as my current one. And maybe with one of those 'even feed' foots like the Pfaff's I got to use at school....sure, it's one more thing to break on it, but they're great for topstitching.... Also, I have Photoshop, so format isn't an issue unless the machine uses their own type.

I would like to create my own clothing line. Does anyone suggest any reputable t-shirt custom design website? I would like to have the flexibility of utilizing embroidery and print on the shirt...

Help with buying lightweight jackets for our golf team.? I am in charge of buying jackets for our golf team. We want a black jacket, lightweight, with custom embroidery on the left chest. It's preferred to be 1/4, 1/2 or full zip. Does anyone know of a website that might sell something? Hopefully under 50 dollars per jacket. Team discounts? Thanks for your help!

Where to get ONE custom hat made in Los Angeles!? Hi everyone... I'm looking to have a custom hat made with a simple graphic. I just need ONE hat though. Every place I go everyone seems to charge at digitizing fee of like $40+ plus hat and embroidery costs... Does anyone know of a place I can go, give them a graphic on a flash drive and they can do it for me? I know these little places exist cause I've been to one.. just not in LA. Any help would be great. Thanks.

IS IT WISE TO BUY A PROFITABLE BUSINESS BEING SOLD AT 7 TIMES ITS NET INCOME? A CUSTOM EMBROIDERY BUSINESS, WHERE i WORK IS BEING SOLD TO ME. aSSETS ARE VALUED AT LEAST THAN $50,000.00. Annual Net Income Average is $100,000.00.

Where Can I get a Portuguese Fitted Hat/Cap? I cant find one anywhere. Ive even tried custom designing one but I cant find a good website for that either (Lids doesnt even have the portuguese flag as a custom embroidery!) I'm looking for something like this : http://www.hatsavenue.com/wp-content/gallery/198/filipino-newera-59fifty-fitted-baseball-cap-hat-club_2.jpg (Except Portuguese, not Filipino, of course). Thanks

How can I convert a JPG to a HUS..? ...without purchasing any expensive software to do it? I need a custom logo digitaized for embroidery. I also do not want to download any freeware, because I don't want to risk getting a virus. Are there any people you can send it to for a very cheap rate? Preferably online, or should I just go to a local embroidery company and have them do it? Thanks in advance for your suggestions :)

Does anyone know how to order custom clothing? I wanna know if there are any companies (online or walk-in) that make entirely custom clothing. I'm not just talking custom embroidery or sizing but complete customization, including stuff like purposeful tears and stuff you wouldn't consider "ordinary" like spikes and tall necks (think a vampire cloak) as well as special colors, etc... It'd be nice to know since this kinda stuff interests me. I'd appreciate the help, thanks.

Any Personalized blankets/covers/throws shops in Chicago, that does embroidery also.? My girlfriend of two years is about to graduate from high school, and I'm seriously getting headaches trying to think of the perfect gift. I really want to do something personalized which led me to the idea of getting her a custom made throw or blanket with her name and Northwestern's ( The college she will be attending) colors/logo. I need help finding a place that does this.

Recommendations for Quick Custom T-Shirts in San Diego? Am thinking that a custom t-shirt (letters only, no graphics) on nice t-shirts would be a good graduation gift for some friends. Where are good places to have done? Iron-on letters? Silk screen letters? Embroidery? Need ASAP.

Question about The Galleria at White Plains, NY? At the "Lids" Store at The Galleria, does anyone know if the store has Custom Embroidery? (a Machine that puts text onto a hat) Thanks! PS: Sorry, New York City is the only Section I could possibly put this question in- thanks

Custom Embroidery NYc? im planning on purchasing a jean jacket, but i want to put my company's logo (square logo) Large to Medium on the back of my Jean Jacket. its 2 colors White & yellow but i want it to be customized embroidery (stitching) do any one no where i can get this done in NYC?

What is your favorite riding attire? Specify ...? What is your favorite riding attire? Specify riding type, also. Mine involves foreign custom embroidery that translates as Insolent Dog From Hell, Poison In The Eye, and another reader can chew on untranslated: Heiki no heiza Amerikajin.

Cheapest embroidery machine...? I am looking to buy an embroidery machine capable of doing hats as well. I have my own artwork so it would have to be able to do custom designs. I'm BRAND NEW at this, so im not sure if this requires a special computer, or program. I dont need to mass produce hats, one at a time is fine by me. Any information would be helpful. Thanks

16 year old starting a scrapbooking business? im 16, i already sell custom made dance bags, and do custom embroidery. SHould i add scrapbooking to this? like people giving me their pictures and i making them into a scrapbook? also, how much would you pay for a quality, 20 page 8 1/2 by 11 scrapbook?

Have you ever heart of these jeans before? http://cgi.ebay.com/White-Joy-jeans-w-Black-embroidery-custom-stitch-sz-0_W0QQitemZ220103992017QQihZ012QQcategoryZ11554QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem They are called... joy jeans... ARE JOY JEANS A DESIGNER BRAND OF JeANS?

Custom Logo on Leather Jacket? Hi guys. Some people on my wrestling team are getting custom letterman jackets done for them, and, even though I like letterman jackets, I've been eyeing a Moto-Style jacket for a while. I was wondering if it'd be possible to put our team name/logo on the back of a leather jacket, this one being the one I have in mind : http://www.bikersden.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=2796 I was thinking getting our logo/name (using the one we have on the back of our warm-ups as a guide) and getting someone to make that into a leather design. Then have that leather design stitched onto the jacket itself. (Another idea was embroidery, but I'm thinking the other way would look "cleaner" overall) I was just wondering if anyone has any suggestions on how to go about doing this, or any good places I can actually get a custom piece of leather cut from a design, then sewn on. (I'm assuming they'd need a heavy-duty sewing machine, so my local tailor probably wouldn't be the best..?) Thanks for any ideas. -Joe

Where can I find custom made fabric? I am having my wedding dress custom made and everything is great, I just need the fabric I want. I can't seem to find it anywhere so I want to see if I can get it custom made. If anyone knows of a good place to do this please let me know. Or, if you know where I can get the fabric I'm looking for that would be even better. I need tulle that has mettalic embroidery/beading going in vertical patterns like stripes down the front with a really nice embroidery on the bottom. So kind of like rain drops falling into a pretty design if that makes any sense at all. Thanks for all the help!

How can I make my own clothing tags (labels)? I make cloth diapers and various clothing items, and I want to put my company name on them. I have seen people selling custom labels and even instructions on how to make your own custom labels. But I thought I would check here first and see if anyone can offer any advice. And I do not have an embroidery machine. And I don't want to use the cheap iron-on transfer paper, because it will peal and wash out quickly.

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How can I manufacture an original t-shirt? I'm trying to start an apparel/t-shirt business online and want to do it the right way. Alot of people screen print their designs on any old plain t-shirts, but that's whack. I want to be able to choose my own material (like cotton, acrylic, henley, etc), the fit (loose, tapered, etc), the application (screen printing, embroidery, patches, etc) and tag (though it will probably be S/P'd on the inside as well). I know there's probably not one single place I could go to where that can all come together, but I'm curious to know how many stops I'd have to make and get a ballpark of how much I'd have to spend. Who do you go to with the material you want and say "Here, these are the measurements." and how do companies get their own custom tags? It's kind of backwards that this is the last information I need to get going. Can anyone knowledgable offer me help? If so, please, be as specific as possible. Thank you! - RMM

Is it possible to acquire patterns for chinese bound foot shoes? I am trying to make a pair for research? I am writing a research paper on the custom of footbinding in China, and even though I have found a lot of books and images, I would like a pattern to make a pair to accompany my paper and have bought samples of Chinese silks, satins and silk embroidery thread

does anybody here like handsewn hippie clothing and bags? with pretty hand embroidery and colorful colors?!? then you should really go to my handsewn site and check out my stuff! im always willing to do custom work! go to www.myspace.com/handsewnhippie and add me and stuff plz. etsy's cool and all, but ive only been able to trade on there, and that was one item. haha, i am looking for better places besides that and ebay, and myspace.

Please help with my business name.? I have an embroidery and sewing business and really need help with a catchy name, I do custom embroidery on towels, shirt logos and I also have stock made up for people to buy in sets. Any help will be very appreciated Julie It does need ne to catchy yet professional as I will be dealing with other compaines, I dont want to sound like a craft store.

Best Home Sewing/Embroidery machine brand? ? What is the best brand for home/small commercial use? One that supports computer software/thumbdrive or straight connection etc for loading custom graphics/fonts etc. Also if you have a suggestion for software, that would be apprecciated mac or pc

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Is velvet a good fabric for a cloak? I'm getting a custom made cloak that is of a wizard design with some embroidery, is velvet a good choice in this case?

Where can i get embroidered motif logos for my clothing? I have a clothing company. I know where i can get embroidery done but im looking for the little motifs you find on clothing like Atticus, Le Coste, le shark etc where you have a tiny sew on logo (bird, shark, aligator) almost like a fabric badge. where can i get these custom made for my company and is there a name for them? thanks

Custom made embroided hats? I'm wanting our hats pre embroided is that possible. Most embroidery places wont embroid on the brim. So does anyone know a company that will embroid on brim of hat. I heard they actually have to start from scratch to do so. So, if anyone knows a manufactorer that would make our hats from scratch give me there websites. I know its possible cuz' places sell hats with embroidery on the brim. Hope you all can help me out! Money doesn't matter just want them done for a team we are on!

I am wanting to sell things I make (sew and embroidery) on the net, what is the best way to get started? I sew and embroider and I would love to be able to sell or take orders over the net. I love what I do and would love to do that for others. I do custom bags, boutique style clothes, purses, quilts, rag quilts, rag quilt bags, if I can get a picture I will figure out how to do it. If anyone has advice please email me or post it here I hope to get some pics up soon. I wanted to add some pictures of some of my work. Please be honest if you think I may do well please leave me a line. If not tell me what I can do to improve. I hope that you like what you see. If you are interested in anything let me know. Heres the site for the pics........ www.photobucket.com/mommiedidit

Does anyone know which online stores sell the "Indian type" fancy embroidered tops and skirts? I know tops like these: http://bollywood6.blox.pl/resource/fanna12.jpg are custom made but I'm looking for online stores that sells tops and skirts that have lots of beautiful detailed embroidery as show in the link above.

How much would it cost me to have a more or less custom blanket made? I have a full size blanket...or comforter, whatever it's called. I've had it since I was like 4, so as you can imagine, it's not in the best of shape. But I don't wanna get rid of it...if a 22 yr old can have a blanky, then this one is mine, lol. So I was thinking of this: having new material put on it, and a bit of emroidery done...maybe. On the top, I was wanting it to be white, and then have a giant black triquetra put on it. I assume embroidery would be the best for this, I really don't know. And then the bottom would just be like a gray or something. But when this is done, the blanket as it is now would have to be sewn up in a few places. Does anyone have any idea how much something like this would cost or where I would even go to to have it done? Thank you in advance...

I need to know how to convert a jpg file into tajima format (I think its called dst.)? I went to an embroidery shop with a custom design i made and asked if they could do it. They said, since they didn't have the design, that I would need to write the picture or design onto a disc in tajima format. I would think tajima format is file extension .dst. I need any free help possible as to how I can convert my simple jpg drawing into a tajima formated file.

I need a gift idea for my cousin's Baby Shower? She is expecting a girl. She registered at target and I plan to get something off of the gift registry but I also wanted to give her something unique. I found an embroidery company online that has baby items but I'm not sure what to get and what to embroider. Here is the link to their baby section http://www.universityfashions.com/custom-apparel/baby-apparel.html I was also told they have thows. Any suggestions? New ideas are also welcome. Thanks.

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2nd interview attire question? Hi guys! I am scheduled to come in for a second interview with a really great custom screen print, logo and embroidery company. On the first interview I wore khakis, a sweater and a jean jacket. The lady I interviewed with said that the company is really laid back and wears jeans and t-shirts. Would it be ok if for my second interview I wore a nice pair of jeans, high heeled boots, a sweater and a khaki jacket? I didn't know if that would be acceptable or not. Thanks for your help!! :)

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Are you inventive/creative? I am looking to start up a home based business sewing, altering (my) scrubs, embroidering (my) scrubs, etc. I will be the one sewing them , coming up with my own inventive ideas, delivering them, etc. It will be a very personal business, focused on my customers and delivering a top notch product. My scrubs will be cheaper than other businesses, yet be of high quality, I can offer alterations and fittings, I will go above and beyond other stores, I will offer accessories and embroidery, etc. So, my big issue is coming up with a name to fit in with all of these great features of my new company. It needs to focus on the: custom scrubs, cheap prices but not cheaply made, and to let people know they are (in fact) scrubs being sold. Can you help me? I am willing to offer a discount on my site when it is up and running for those who help me to make the name. Thanks in advance!

Where is the cheapest store for custom printing polo t-shirt ? we are small company and wish to print about 8 pieces of company logo polo tee in embroidery style. Had search around for few printing company is either they are not doing or very expensive that are out of my budget. Please advise if anyone have came across any cheaper store that accept small quantity.

Jenna Bush's Wedding Dress? I'm curious how much her dress cost. Was it custom made or an already designed dress? I know it was a Oscar de la Renta white silk organza with embroidery.

Please help me pick the right wedding banquet dress.....? It's for my best friend's wedding in September. It will be a big extravagant traditional Chinese wedding and the banquet will be in a high-class setting after 6:30 p.m. I'm ordering my dresses all "custom-made." I'm not one of her bridesmaids cuz I'm already married with kids, but, as her best friend, the elders asked me to do the honorable "hair-combing-blessing" ceremony the night before the wedding (we don't do Bachelorette parties in Chinese customs). Here are the Chinese Qi Pao (or Cheongsam) I have narrowed down to: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_495_Embroidery_Dancing_Phoenix_Silk_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Navy/Fuschia (it's NOT Dark Red as it looks in pic) http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_606_Mystical_Velvet_Dress_cat_2.html http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_452_Junoesque_Orchid_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Chng it to reg sleeveless http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_337_Feminine_Floral_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.htm Not the dress I want, but it's a sample of their possible Fuschia shade: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_690_Graceful_Floral_Pattern_BurnOut_Velvet_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Absolutely no red or gold or yellow colors either. Much like one cannot wear white in American customs to upstage the bride, those are the Chinese "bridal colors" that are against the elders' policy. Yellow resembles gold, so it's a violation of conduct as well. Here's the link to the 4th one: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_337_Feminine_Floral_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html But this one I want to change the cut-away sleeves to regular sleeveless or slight capsleeves.

Wedding etiquettes? It's for my best friend's wedding in September. It will be a big extravagant traditional Chinese wedding and the banquet will be in a high-class setting after 6:30 p.m. I'm ordering my dresses all "custom-made." I'm not one of her bridesmaids cuz I'm already married with kids, but, as her best friend, the elders asked me to do the honorable "hair-combing-blessing" ceremony the night before the wedding (we don't do Bachelorette parties in Chinese customs). Here are the Chinese Qi Pao (or Cheongsam) I have narrowed down to: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_495_Embroidery_Dancing_Phoenix_Silk_Cheongsam_cat_2.html It's not beaded, they're just white dots and it's Navy with Fuschia, not Dark Red as the pic looks: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_606_Mystical_Velvet_Dress_cat_2.html http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_452_Junoesque_Orchid_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_337_Feminine_Floral_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Which one is the most elegant without upstaging the bride? Fuschia is the "lucky" color for general celebrations (elders' birthday banquets, Chinese New Year, newborn's 1st-month banquets, and so on), but does it look too gawdy? Red, gold and yellow (resembles gold) are the "bridal colors," which are all violations against the elders policy. The elders also frown upon anything shorter than mid-calf, so that's out of the question. Fuschia, non-pale-pinks, red-purple (not royal purple), and red are the general "lucky" colors. I like the Burn-Out Velvet idea, but I dislike bright gawdy pinks.

Attending Chinese traditional wedding banquet....Appropriate gown? It's for my best friend's wedding in September. It will be a big extravagant traditional Chinese wedding and the banquet will be in a high-class setting after 6:30 p.m. I'm ordering my dresses all "custom-made." I'm not one of her bridesmaids cuz I'm already married with kids, but, as her best friend, the elders asked me to do the honorable "hair-combing-blessing" ceremony the night before the wedding (we don't do Bachelorette parties in Chinese customs). Here are the Chinese Qi Pao (or Cheongsam) I have narrowed down to: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_495_Embroidery_Dancing_Phoenix_Silk_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Actually Navy/Fuschia, not Dark Red as it looks in pic: http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_606_Mystical_Velvet_Dress_cat_2.html http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_452_Junoesque_Orchid_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html http://www.eaststore.com/catalog/product_337_Feminine_Floral_Embroidery_Cheongsam_cat_2.html Which one is too gawdy? I want it to be as traditional as possible but I'm aiming for simple elegance.

Where can I find clothing like Hugh Jackman in "Kate and Leopold"? Also like Patrick Dempsey in the final scenes of "Enchanted". It seems to be based on equestrian apparel. That's just a guess based on the tall boots that they both wear. The coat is my main problem, but if there is a place to find everything, then I'd be more than excited for that as well. The only thing I've been able to find is the "Brocaded Versailles Coat" on various websites. It is black and gold. While it looks nice, I would prefer ones more like the ones in "Kate and Leopold" or "Enchanted". With embroidery and tails on the back. The tails make it much more elegant in my opinion. If nothing else, I'd appreciate the website information for a talented tailor who specializes in making custom pieces like these. Thanks much in advance! :D

Bat Mitzvah Gift Idea. Looking for something kind and creative, useful/interesting. Read more info? OK, So my friend that lives in Israel is having her Bat Mitzvah. She's my best friend. For my bat Mitzvah, in her short time in America, she made me a really pretty, handmade embroidered piece of fleece with my name and lots of decoration. So I want to make her something really special, in addition to something she would really want, like money or a new game for her Nintendo DS. I can sew, but i can't embroider. So far I've come up with: A custom skin for her DS with pics of all of us. A pillow with israeli and american flag, with some SIMPLE embroidery, like with her name or something. I Already made her a book full of pics from our class and everything, it looked rly professional and everything, but i made it her first year living in israel, so idk if i want to re do that. I want it to be REALLY special!!!! so please, if you have any ideas, give them to me, because shes my BFF and i want her to have a heartfelt prezzy.

Should I write this book? I used to be the Locofoco Surveyor in the Custom-House of the port of Salem. It was a pure sinecure - there was no sea traffic to speak of, and all my fellow workers were old men who mostly slept in their chairs or talked about their dinners and lunches. One rainy day I went to the archives and found an envelope, made of parchment, inside of which there was a commission, under the hand and seal of Governor Shirley, in favour of one Jonathan Pue, several other papers concerning him, a manuscript, history of Salem,written by him, and a piece of embroidery in a fine red cloth. I found a full story of it in the Pue's manuscript and want to retell it my own way, and publish it. I think that the story is rather interesting. There is love, adultery and many other exiting things. I am thinking about re-writing it as a fiction, not as a real history, as Pue did. I'd like something with a human touch. Should I do it?

which dress would look bettter? okay well my birthday is coming up and i haven't found any dresses i liked so my mom is getting the lady who designed her wedding gown to design my dress custom made i was looking up pictures to get some ideas of what i might want and this is what i came up with http://www.therosedress.com/shop/products/showpicAD.asp?id=6007&vendorid=AD&imageno=2 something like that except in a powder blue with a white ribbon right below the bust and the bow in the back http://www.therosedress.com/shop/products/showpicAD.asp?id=6008&vendorid=AD&imageno=2 something like that except the top will bead a corset with the about the same beading and none of that embroidery http://www.therosedress.com/shop/products/showpicAD.asp?id=6806&vendorid=AD&imageno=2 something like that except the pink tulle will extend all the way to the bottom of the down and in place of the flowers there will be beads do you like the changes i made? and which do you think will look best? oh and on the last one im getting rid of that random little flower by the bottom right corner

Is This A Good Idea For My Husbands Christmas Gift? My husband is a classically trained chef and doesn't have his own personal chef coats anymore. His have given out over the years and where he works now supplies him with company chef coats. For Christmas I wanted to get him a custom made Chef's Coat. He likes dark colors and hates white chef's coats. I was going to get him a black one that has his name embroidered on it. A classic chef's coat and have the sleeves altered a bit. Adding some cuffs to it but on the inside of the cuffs on one sleeve have embroidered - To my Black Diamond From his Gothic Princess ( our nicknames for each other ) and on the other - This is just the first step to us opening your own Restaurant. The embroidery on the cuffs would be on the inside of the cuff so it could only be seen when he unfolds the cuffs to read. He wears his shirts with the sleeves rolled up, so I am not worried about others seeing this part. Think this would make a good gift for him? Nah, he wouldn't get in trouble for wearing it. They wear black chef coats there, so there isn't a problem. A lot of chef's there wear their own. As long as they are black they don't have a problem with it. He isn't the Executive chef but he is in charge of all the catering menu items, special occasion recipes and has created 90% of the recipes that are used where he works. So he is a higher up on the culinary totem pole. The executive chef where he works is more of a Kitchen Manager, doesn't cook at all anymore and just does the paper work and the such to make sure the kitchen runs smooth.

What is the super thin Bridal Veiling material called, I can't find it!? I need a few answers here, actually. I am looking for the vocabulary involved in how to gauge the thickness and thinness of bridal veiling. I know with sheets, its thread count, but w/ veiling, what do they call each type? I'm looking to buy fabric online, and I wanted to get a very small quantity of ivory veiling that is soft, that you can sew embroidered sequined designs on, and that is almost invisible. I have seen veils that show the whole back of the gown, and I don't even know what that kind of veiling is called! This is for a vow renewal and Its going to be more like a hair decoration, rather than a veil, like a drape, off the barette or comb in the back of my hair, not dropping too far down. I've heard the "experts" say don't wear a veil to vow renewals, but I'm not accepting their dictatorship and changing the custom to do my own thing. :) It really means something to me to wear one and to have my daughter create the design for the embroidery. P.S. I know it is called Tulle. But the scratchy stuff that is really thick and not very easy to see through is called Tulle, as well. I'm looking for the name of the soft almost invisible veiling and the correct term for how far apart the threads are, the gauge, if you will... of the veiling so that I can look it up on the internet.

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Where to find a wedding dress with black embroidery, trim or beading? A friend is getting married next year and is after a wedding dress with black on it (be it embroidery, lace trim, beading or anything else you can think of). She's having trouble coming across such dresses. Can anyone help with this? Does anyone sell dresses like this? or are there places she can go to have something custom made? In Melbourne, Australia

Poll: Did you like The Oddysey or The Iliad better? I liked the Iliad better. This was my favorite part: Sing, O goddess, the anger of Achilles son of Peleus, that brought countless ills upon the Achaeans. Many a brave soul did it send hurrying down to Hades, and many a hero did it yield a prey to dogs and vultures, for so were the counsels of Jove fulfilled from the day on which the son of Atreus, king of men, and great Achilles, first fell out with one another. And which of the gods was it that set them on to quarrel? It was the son of Jove and Leto; for he was angry with the king and sent a pestilence upon the host to plague the people, because the son of Atreus had dishonoured Chryses his priest. Now Chryses had come to the ships of the Achaeans to free his daughter, and had brought with him a great ransom: moreover he bore in his hand the sceptre of Apollo wreathed with a suppliant's wreath and he besought the Achaeans, but most of all the two sons of Atreus, who were their chiefs. "Sons of Atreus," he cried, "and all other Achaeans, may the gods who dwell in Olympus grant you to sack the city of Priam, and to reach your homes in safety; but free my daughter, and accept a ransom for her, in reverence to Apollo, son of Jove." On this the rest of the Achaeans with one voice were for respecting the priest and taking the ransom that he offered; but not so Agamemnon, who spoke fiercely to him and sent him roughly away. "Old man," said he, "let me not find you tarrying about our ships, nor yet coming hereafter. Your sceptre of the god and your wreath shall profit you nothing. I will not free her. She shall grow old in my house at Argos far from her own home, busying herself with her loom and visiting my couch; so go, and do not provoke me or it shall be the worse for you." The old man feared him and obeyed. Not a word he spoke, but went by the shore of the sounding sea and prayed apart to King Apollo whom lovely Leto had borne. "Hear me," he cried, "O god of the silver bow, that protectest Chryse and holy Cilla and rulest Tenedos with thy might, hear me oh thou of Sminthe. If I have ever decked your temple with garlands, or burned your thigh-bones in fat of bulls or goats, grant my prayer, and let your arrows avenge these my tears upon the Danaans." Thus did he pray, and Apollo heard his prayer. He came down furious from the summits of Olympus, with his bow and his quiver upon his shoulder, and the arrows rattled on his back with the rage that trembled within him. He sat himself down away from the ships with a face as dark as night, and his silver bow rang death as he shot his arrow in the midst of them. First he smote their mules and their hounds, but presently he aimed his shafts at the people themselves, and all day long the pyres of the dead were burning. For nine whole days he shot his arrows among the people, but upon the tenth day Achilles called them in assembly- moved thereto by Juno, who saw the Achaeans in their death-throes and had compassion upon them. Then, when they were got together, he rose and spoke among them. "Son of Atreus," said he, "I deem that we should now turn roving home if we would escape destruction, for we are being cut down by war and pestilence at once. Let us ask some priest or prophet, or some reader of dreams (for dreams, too, are of Jove) who can tell us why Phoebus Apollo is so angry, and say whether it is for some vow that we have broken, or hecatomb that we have not offered, and whether he will accept the savour of lambs and goats without blemish, so as to take away the plague from us." With these words he sat down, and Calchas son of Thestor, wisest of augurs, who knew things past present and to come, rose to speak. He it was who had guided the Achaeans with their fleet to Ilius, through the prophesyings with which Phoebus Apollo had inspired him. With all sincerity and goodwill he addressed them thus:- "Achilles, loved of heaven, you bid me tell you about the anger of King Apollo, I will therefore do so; but consider first and swear that you will stand by me heartily in word and deed, for I know that I shall offend one who rules the Argives with might, to whom all the Achaeans are in subjection. A plain man cannot stand against the anger of a king, who if he swallow his displeasure now, will yet nurse revenge till he has wreaked it. Consider, therefore, whether or no you will protect me." And Achilles answered, "Fear not, but speak as it is borne in upon you from heaven, for by Apollo, Calchas, to whom you pray, and whose oracles you reveal to us, not a Danaan at our ships shall lay his hand upon you, while I yet live to look upon the face of the earth- no, not though you name Agamemnon himself, who is by far the foremost of the Achaeans." Thereon the seer spoke boldly. "The god," he said, "is angry neither about vow nor hecatomb, but for his priest's sake, whom Agamemnon has dishonoured, in that he would not free his daughter nor take a ransom for her; therefore has he sent these evils upon us, and will yet send others. He will not deliver the Danaans from this pestilence till Agamemnon has restored the girl without fee or ransom to her father, and has sent a holy hecatomb to Chryse. Thus we may perhaps appease him." With these words he sat down, and Agamemnon rose in anger. His heart was black with rage, and his eyes flashed fire as he scowled on Calchas and said, "Seer of evil, you never yet prophesied smooth things concerning me, but have ever loved to foretell that which was evil. You have brought me neither comfort nor performance; and now you come seeing among Danaans, and saying that Apollo has plagued us because I would not take a ransom for this girl, the daughter of Chryses. I have set my heart on keeping her in my own house, for I love her better even than my own wife Clytemnestra, whose peer she is alike in form and feature, in understanding and accomplishments. Still I will give her up if I must, for I would have the people live, not die; but you must find me a prize instead, or I alone among the Argives shall be without one. This is not well; for you behold, all of you, that my prize is to go elsewhither." And Achilles answered, "Most noble son of Atreus, covetous beyond all mankind, how shall the Achaeans find you another prize? We have no common store from which to take one. Those we took from the cities have been awarded; we cannot disallow the awards that have been made already. Give this girl, therefore, to the god, and if ever Jove grants us to sack the city of Troy we will requite you three and fourfold." Then Agamemnon said, "Achilles, valiant though you be, you shall not thus outwit me. You shall not overreach and you shall not persuade me. Are you to keep your own prize, while I sit tamely under my loss and give up the girl at your bidding? Let the Achaeans find me a prize in fair exchange to my liking, or I will come and take your own, or that of Ajax or of Ulysses; and he to whomsoever I may come shall rue my coming. But of this we will take thought hereafter; for the present, let us draw a ship into the sea, and find a crew for her expressly; let us put a hecatomb on board, and let us send Chryseis also; further, let some chief man among us be in command, either Ajax, or Idomeneus, or yourself, son of Peleus, mighty warrior that you are, that we may offer sacrifice and appease the the anger of the god." Achilles scowled at him and answered, "You are steeped in insolence and lust of gain. With what heart can any of the Achaeans do your bidding, either on foray or in open fighting? I came not warring here for any ill the Trojans had done me. I have no quarrel with them. They have not raided my cattle nor my horses, nor cut down my harvests on the rich plains of Phthia; for between me and them there is a great space, both mountain and sounding sea. We have followed you, Sir Insolence! for your pleasure, not ours- to gain satisfaction from the Trojans for your shameless self and for Menelaus. You forget this, and threaten to rob me of the prize for which I have toiled, and which the sons of the Achaeans have given me. Never when the Achaeans sack any rich city of the Trojans do I receive so good a prize as you do, though it is my hands that do the better part of the fighting. When the sharing comes, your share is far the largest, and I, forsooth, must go back to my ships, take what I can get and be thankful, when my labour of fighting is done. Now, therefore, I shall go back to Phthia; it will be much better for me to return home with my ships, for I will not stay here dishonoured to gather gold and substance for you." And Agamemnon answered, "Fly if you will, I shall make you no prayers to stay you. I have others here who will do me honour, and above all Jove, the lord of counsel. There is no king here so hateful to me as you are, for you are ever quarrelsome and ill affected. What though you be brave? Was it not heaven that made you so? Go home, then, with your ships and comrades to lord it over the Myrmidons. I care neither for you nor for your anger; and thus will I do: since Phoebus Apollo is taking Chryseis from me, I shall send her with my ship and my followers, but I shall come to your tent and take your own prize Briseis, that you may learn how much stronger I am than you are, and that another may fear to set himself up as equal or comparable with me." The son of Peleus was furious, and his heart within his shaggy breast was divided whether to draw his sword, push the others aside, and kill the son of Atreus, or to restrain himself and check his anger. While he was thus in two minds, and was drawing his mighty sword from its scabbard, Minerva came down from heaven (for Juno had sent her in the love she bore to them both), and seized the son of Peleus by his yellow hair, visible to him alone, for of the others no man could see her. Achilles turned in amaze, and by the fire that flashed from her eyes at once knew that she was Minerva. "Why are you here," said he, "daughter of aegis-bearing Jove? To see the pride of Agamemnon, son of Atreus? Let me tell you- and it shall surely be- he shall pay for this insolence with his life." And Minerva said, "I come from heaven, if you will hear me, to bid you stay your anger. Juno has sent me, who cares for both of you alike. Cease, then, this brawling, and do not draw your sword; rail at him if you will, and your railing will not be vain, for I tell you- and it shall surely be- that you shall hereafter receive gifts three times as splendid by reason of this present insult. Hold, therefore, and obey." "Goddess," answered Achilles, "however angry a man may be, he must do as you two command him. This will be best, for the gods ever hear the prayers of him who has obeyed them." He stayed his hand on the silver hilt of his sword, and thrust it back into the scabbard as Minerva bade him. Then she went back to Olympus among the other gods, and to the house of aegis-bearing Jove. But the son of Peleus again began railing at the son of Atreus, for he was still in a rage. "Wine-bibber," he cried, "with the face of a dog and the heart of a hind, you never dare to go out with the host in fight, nor yet with our chosen men in ambuscade. You shun this as you do death itself. You had rather go round and rob his prizes from any man who contradicts you. You devour your people, for you are king over a feeble folk; otherwise, son of Atreus, henceforward you would insult no man. Therefore I say, and swear it with a great oath- nay, by this my sceptre which shalt sprout neither leaf nor shoot, nor bud anew from the day on which it left its parent stem upon the mountains- for the axe stripped it of leaf and bark, and now the sons of the Achaeans bear it as judges and guardians of the decrees of heaven- so surely and solemnly do I swear that hereafter they shall look fondly for Achilles and shall not find him. In the day of your distress, when your men fall dying by the murderous hand of Hector, you shall not know how to help them, and shall rend your heart with rage for the hour when you offered insult to the bravest of the Achaeans." With this the son of Peleus dashed his gold-bestudded sceptre on the ground and took his seat, while the son of Atreus was beginning fiercely from his place upon the other side. Then uprose smooth-tongued Nestor, the facile speaker of the Pylians, and the words fell from his lips sweeter than honey. Two generations of men born and bred in Pylos had passed away under his rule, and he was now reigning over the third. With all sincerity and goodwill, therefore, he addressed them thus:- "Of a truth," he said, "a great sorrow has befallen the Achaean land. Surely Priam with his sons would rejoice, and the Trojans be glad at heart if they could hear this quarrel between you two, who are so excellent in fight and counsel. I am older than either of you; therefore be guided by me. Moreover I have been the familiar friend of men even greater than you are, and they did not disregard my counsels. Never again can I behold such men as Pirithous and Dryas shepherd of his people, or as Caeneus, Exadius, godlike Polyphemus, and Theseus son of Aegeus, peer of the immortals. These were the mightiest men ever born upon this earth: mightiest were they, and when they fought the fiercest tribes of mountain savages they utterly overthrew them. I came from distant Pylos, and went about among them, for they would have me come, and I fought as it was in me to do. Not a man now living could withstand them, but they heard my words, and were persuaded by them. So be it also with yourselves, for this is the more excellent way. Therefore, Agamemnon, though you be strong, take not this girl away, for the sons of the Achaeans have already given her to Achilles; and you, Achilles, strive not further with the king, for no man who by the grace of Jove wields a sceptre has like honour with Agamemnon. You are strong, and have a goddess for your mother; but Agamemnon is stronger than you, for he has more people under him. Son of Atreus, check your anger, I implore you; end this quarrel with Achilles, who in the day of battle is a tower of strength to the Achaeans." And Agamemnon answered, "Sir, all that you have said is true, but this fellow must needs become our lord and master: he must be lord of all, king of all, and captain of all, and this shall hardly be. Granted that the gods have made him a great warrior, have they also given him the right to speak with railing?" Achilles interrupted him. "I should be a mean coward," he cried, "were I to give in to you in all things. Order other people about, not me, for I shall obey no longer. Furthermore I say- and lay my saying to your heart- I shall fight neither you nor any man about this girl, for those that take were those also that gave. But of all else that is at my ship you shall carry away nothing by force. Try, that others may see; if you do, my spear shall be reddened with your blood." When they had quarrelled thus angrily, they rose, and broke up the assembly at the ships of the Achaeans. The son of Peleus went back to his tents and ships with the son of Menoetius and his company, while Agamemnon drew a vessel into the water and chose a crew of twenty oarsmen. He escorted Chryseis on board and sent moreover a hecatomb for the god. And Ulysses went as captain. These, then, went on board and sailed their ways over the sea. But the son of Atreus bade the people purify themselves; so they purified themselves and cast their filth into the sea. Then they offered hecatombs of bulls and goats without blemish on the sea-shore, and the smoke with the savour of their sacrifice rose curling up towards heaven. Thus did they busy themselves throughout the host. But Agamemnon did not forget the threat that he had made Achilles, and called his trusty messengers and squires Talthybius and Eurybates. "Go," said he, "to the tent of Achilles, son of Peleus; take Briseis by the hand and bring her hither; if he will not give her I shall come with others and take her- which will press him harder." He charged them straightly further and dismissed them, whereon they went their way sorrowfully by the seaside, till they came to the tents and ships of the Myrmidons. They found Achilles sitting by his tent and his ships, and ill-pleased he was when he beheld them. They stood fearfully and reverently before him, and never a word did they speak, but he knew them and said, "Welcome, heralds, messengers of gods and men; draw near; my quarrel is not with you but with Agamemnon who has sent you for the girl Briseis. Therefore, Patroclus, bring her and give her to them, but let them be witnesses by the blessed gods, by mortal men, and by the fierceness of Agamemnon's anger, that if ever again there be need of me to save the people from ruin, they shall seek and they shall not find. Agamemnon is mad with rage and knows not how to look before and after that the Achaeans may fight by their ships in safety." Patroclus did as his dear comrade had bidden him. He brought Briseis from the tent and gave her over to the heralds, who took her with them to the ships of the Achaeans- and the woman was loth to go. Then Achilles went all alone by the side of the hoar sea, weeping and looking out upon the boundless waste of waters. He raised his hands in prayer to his immortal mother, "Mother," he cried, "you bore me doomed to live but for a little season; surely Jove, who thunders from Olympus, might have made that little glorious. It is not so. Agamemnon, son of Atreus, has done me dishonour, and has robbed me of my prize by force." As he spoke he wept aloud, and his mother heard him where she was sitting in the depths of the sea hard by the old man her father. Forthwith she rose as it were a grey mist out of the waves, sat down before him as he stood weeping, caressed him with her hand, and said, "My son, why are you weeping? What is it that grieves you? Keep it not from me, but tell me, that we may know it together." Achilles drew a deep sigh and said, "You know it; why tell you what you know well already? We went to Thebe the strong city of Eetion, sacked it, and brought hither the spoil. The sons of the Achaeans shared it duly among themselves, and chose lovely Chryseis as the meed of Agamemnon; but Chryses, priest of Apollo, came to the ships of the Achaeans to free his daughter, and brought with him a great ransom: moreover he bore in his hand the sceptre of Apollo, wreathed with a suppliant's wreath, and he besought the Achaeans, but most of all the two sons of Atreus who were their chiefs. "On this the rest of the Achaeans with one voice were for respecting the priest and taking the ransom that he offered; but not so Agamemnon, who spoke fiercely to him and sent him roughly away. So he went back in anger, and Apollo, who loved him dearly, heard his prayer. Then the god sent a deadly dart upon the Argives, and the people died thick on one another, for the arrows went everywhither among the wide host of the Achaeans. At last a seer in the fulness of his knowledge declared to us the oracles of Apollo, and I was myself first to say that we should appease him. Whereon the son of Atreus rose in anger, and threatened that which he has since done. The Achaeans are now taking the girl in a ship to Chryse, and sending gifts of sacrifice to the god; but the heralds have just taken from my tent the daughter of Briseus, whom the Achaeans had awarded to myself. "Help your brave son, therefore, if you are able. Go to Olympus, and if you have ever done him service in word or deed, implore the aid of Jove. Ofttimes in my father's house have I heard you glory in that you alone of the immortals saved the son of Saturn from ruin, when the others, with Juno, Neptune, and Pallas Minerva would have put him in bonds. It was you, goddess, who delivered him by calling to Olympus the hundred-handed monster whom gods call Briareus, but men Aegaeon, for he is stronger even than his father; when therefore he took his seat all-glorious beside the son of Saturn, the other gods were afraid, and did not bind him. Go, then, to him, remind him of all this, clasp his knees, and bid him give succour to the Trojans. Let the Achaeans be hemmed in at the sterns of their ships, and perish on the sea-shore, that they may reap what joy they may of their king, and that Agamemnon may rue his blindness in offering insult to the foremost of the Achaeans." Thetis wept and answered, "My son, woe is me that I should have borne or suckled you. Would indeed that you had lived your span free from all sorrow at your ships, for it is all too brief; alas, that you should be at once short of life and long of sorrow above your peers: woe, therefore, was the hour in which I bore you; nevertheless I will go to the snowy heights of Olympus, and tell this tale to Jove, if he will hear our prayer: meanwhile stay where you are with your ships, nurse your anger against the Achaeans, and hold aloof from fight. For Jove went yesterday to Oceanus, to a feast among the Ethiopians, and the other gods went with him. He will return to Olympus twelve days hence; I will then go to his mansion paved with bronze and will beseech him; nor do I doubt that I shall be able to persuade him." On this she left him, still furious at the loss of her that had been taken from him. Meanwhile Ulysses reached Chryse with the hecatomb. When they had come inside the harbour they furled the sails and laid them in the ship's hold; they slackened the forestays, lowered the mast into its place, and rowed the ship to the place where they would have her lie; there they cast out their mooring-stones and made fast the hawsers. They then got out upon the sea-shore and landed the hecatomb for Apollo; Chryseis also left the ship, and Ulysses led her to the altar to deliver her into the hands of her father. "Chryses," said he, "King Agamemnon has sent me to bring you back your child, and to offer sacrifice to Apollo on behalf of the Danaans, that we may propitiate the god, who has now brought sorrow upon the Argives." So saying he gave the girl over to her father, who received her gladly, and they ranged the holy hecatomb all orderly round the altar of the god. They washed their hands and took up the barley-meal to sprinkle over the victims, while Chryses lifted up his hands and prayed aloud on their behalf. "Hear me," he cried, "O god of the silver bow, that protectest Chryse and holy Cilla, and rulest Tenedos with thy might. Even as thou didst hear me aforetime when I prayed, and didst press hardly upon the Achaeans, so hear me yet again, and stay this fearful pestilence from the Danaans." Thus did he pray, and Apollo heard his prayer. When they had done praying and sprinkling the barley-meal, they drew back the heads of the victims and killed and flayed them. They cut out the thigh-bones, wrapped them round in two layers of fat, set some pieces of raw meat on the top of them, and then Chryses laid them on the wood fire and poured wine over them, while the young men stood near him with five-pronged spits in their hands. When the thigh-bones were burned and they had tasted the inward meats, they cut the rest up small, put the pieces upon the spits, roasted them till they were done, and drew them off: then, when they had finished their work and the feast was ready, they ate it, and every man had his full share, so that all were satisfied. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink, pages filled the mixing-bowl with wine and water and handed it round, after giving every man his drink-offering. Thus all day long the young men worshipped the god with song, hymning him and chaunting the joyous paean, and the god took pleasure in their voices; but when the sun went down, and it came on dark, they laid themselves down to sleep by the stern cables of the ship, and when the child of morning, rosy-fingered Dawn, appeared they again set sail for the host of the Achaeans. Apollo sent them a fair wind, so they raised their mast and hoisted their white sails aloft. As the sail bellied with the wind the ship flew through the deep blue water, and the foam hissed against her bows as she sped onward. When they reached the wide-stretching host of the Achaeans, they drew the vessel ashore, high and dry upon the sands, set her strong props beneath her, and went their ways to their own tents and ships. But Achilles abode at his ships and nursed his anger. He went not to the honourable assembly, and sallied not forth to fight, but gnawed at his own heart, pining for battle and the war-cry. Now after twelve days the immortal gods came back in a body to Olympus, and Jove led the way. Thetis was not unmindful of the charge her son had laid upon her, so she rose from under the sea and went through great heaven with early morning to Olympus, where she found the mighty son of Saturn sitting all alone upon its topmost ridges. She sat herself down before him, and with her left hand seized his knees, while with her right she caught him under the chin, and besought him, saying- "Father Jove, if I ever did you service in word or deed among the immortals, hear my prayer, and do honour to my son, whose life is to be cut short so early. King Agamemnon has dishonoured him by taking his prize and keeping her. Honour him then yourself, Olympian lord of counsel, and grant victory to the Trojans, till the Achaeans give my son his due and load him with riches in requital." Jove sat for a while silent, and without a word, but Thetis still kept firm hold of his knees, and besought him a second time. "Incline your head," said she, "and promise me surely, or else deny me- for you have nothing to fear- that I may learn how greatly you disdain me." At this Jove was much troubled and answered, "I shall have trouble if you set me quarrelling with Juno, for she will provoke me with her taunting speeches; even now she is always railing at me before the other gods and accusing me of giving aid to the Trojans. Go back now, lest she should find out. I will consider the matter, and will bring it about as wish. See, I incline my head that you believe me. This is the most solemn that I can give to any god. I never recall my word, or deceive, or fail to do what I say, when I have nodded my head." As he spoke the son of Saturn bowed his dark brows, and the ambrosial locks swayed on his immortal head, till vast Olympus reeled. When the pair had thus laid their plans, they parted- Jove to his house, while the goddess quitted the splendour of Olympus, and plunged into the depths of the sea. The gods rose from their seats, before the coming of their sire. Not one of them dared to remain sitting, but all stood up as he came among them. There, then, he took his seat. But Juno, when she saw him, knew that he and the old merman's daughter, silver-footed Thetis, had been hatching mischief, so she at once began to upbraid him. "Trickster," she cried, "which of the gods have you been taking into your counsels now? You are always settling matters in secret behind my back, and have never yet told me, if you could help it, one word of your intentions." "Juno," replied the sire of gods and men, "you must not expect to be informed of all my counsels. You are my wife, but you would find it hard to understand them. When it is proper for you to hear, there is no one, god or man, who will be told sooner, but when I mean to keep a matter to myself, you must not pry nor ask questions." "Dread son of Saturn," answered Juno, "what are you talking about? I? Pry and ask questions? Never. I let you have your own way in everything. Still, I have a strong misgiving that the old merman's daughter Thetis has been talking you over, for she was with you and had hold of your knees this self-same morning. I believe, therefore, that you have been promising her to give glory to Achilles, and to kill much people at the ships of the Achaeans." "Wife," said Jove, "I can do nothing but you suspect me and find it out. You will take nothing by it, for I shall only dislike you the more, and it will go harder with you. Granted that it is as you say; I mean to have it so; sit down and hold your tongue as I bid you for if I once begin to lay my hands about you, though all heaven were on your side it would profit you nothing." On this Juno was frightened, so she curbed her stubborn will and sat down in silence. But the heavenly beings were disquieted throughout the house of Jove, till the cunning workman Vulcan began to try and pacify his mother Juno. "It will be intolerable," said he, "if you two fall to wrangling and setting heaven in an uproar about a pack of mortals. If such ill counsels are to prevail, we shall have no pleasure at our banquet. Let me then advise my mother- and she must herself know that it will be better- to make friends with my dear father Jove, lest he again scold her and disturb our feast. If the Olympian Thunderer wants to hurl us all from our seats, he can do so, for he is far the strongest, so give him fair words, and he will then soon be in a good humour with us." As he spoke, he took a double cup of nectar, and placed it in his mother's hand. "Cheer up, my dear mother," said he, "and make the best of it. I love you dearly, and should be very sorry to see you get a thrashing; however grieved I might be, I could not help for there is no standing against Jove. Once before when I was trying to help you, he caught me by the foot and flung me from the heavenly threshold. All day long from morn till eve, was I falling, till at sunset I came to ground in the island of Lemnos, and there I lay, with very little life left in me, till the Sintians came and tended me." Juno smiled at this, and as she smiled she took the cup from her son's hands. Then Vulcan drew sweet nectar from the mixing-bowl, and served it round among the gods, going from left to right; and the blessed gods laughed out a loud applause as they saw him ing bustling about the heavenly mansion. Thus through the livelong day to the going down of the sun they feasted, and every one had his full share, so that all were satisfied. Apollo struck his lyre, and the Muses lifted up their sweet voices, calling and answering one another. But when the sun's glorious light had faded, they went home to bed, each in his own abode, which lame Vulcan with his consummate skill had fashioned for them. So Jove, the Olympian Lord of Thunder, hied him to the bed in which he always slept; and when he had got on to it he went to sleep, with Juno of the golden throne by his side. Now the other gods and the armed warriors on the plain slept soundly, but Jove was wakeful, for he was thinking how to do honour to Achilles, and destroyed much people at the ships of the Achaeans. In the end he deemed it would be best to send a lying dream to King Agamemnon; so he called one to him and said to it, "Lying Dream, go to the ships of the Achaeans, into the tent of Agamemnon, and say to him word to word as I now bid you. Tell him to get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for he shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans." The dream went when it had heard its message, and soon reached the ships of the Achaeans. It sought Agamemnon son of Atreus and found him in his tent, wrapped in a profound slumber. It hovered over his head in the likeness of Nestor, son of Neleus, whom Agamemnon honoured above all his councillors, and said:- "You are sleeping, son of Atreus; one who has the welfare of his host and so much other care upon his shoulders should dock his sleep. Hear me at once, for I come as a messenger from Jove, who, though he be not near, yet takes thought for you and pities you. He bids you get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for you shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them over to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans at the hands of Jove. Remember this, and when you wake see that it does not escape you." The dream then left him, and he thought of things that were, surely not to be accomplished. He thought that on that same day he was to take the city of Priam, but he little knew what was in the mind of Jove, who had many another hard-fought fight in store alike for Danaans and Trojans. Then presently he woke, with the divine message still ringing in his ears; so he sat upright, and put on his soft shirt so fair and new, and over this his heavy cloak. He bound his sandals on to his comely feet, and slung his silver-studded sword about his shoulders; then he took the imperishable staff of his father, and sallied forth to the ships of the Achaeans. The goddess Dawn now wended her way to vast Olympus that she might herald day to Jove and to the other immortals, and Agamemnon sent the criers round to call the people in assembly; so they called them and the people gathered thereon. But first he summoned a meeting of the elders at the ship of Nestor king of Pylos, and when they were assembled he laid a cunning counsel before them. "My friends," said he, "I have had a dream from heaven in the dead of night, and its face and figure resembled none but Nestor's. It hovered over my head and said, 'You are sleeping, son of Atreus; one who has the welfare of his host and so much other care upon his shoulders should dock his sleep. Hear me at once, for I am a messenger from Jove, who, though he be not near, yet takes thought for you and pities you. He bids you get the Achaeans instantly under arms, for you shall take Troy. There are no longer divided counsels among the gods; Juno has brought them over to her own mind, and woe betides the Trojans at the hands of Jove. Remember this.' The dream then vanished and I awoke. Let us now, therefore, arm the sons of the Achaeans. But it will be well that I should first sound them, and to this end I will tell them to fly with their ships; but do you others go about among the host and prevent their doing so." He then sat down, and Nestor the prince of Pylos with all sincerity and goodwill addressed them thus: "My friends," said he, "princes and councillors of the Argives, if any other man of the Achaeans had told us of this dream we should have declared it false, and would have had nothing to do with it. But he who has seen it is the foremost man among us; we must therefore set about getting the people under arms." With this he led the way from the assembly, and the other sceptred kings rose with him in obedience to the word of Agamemnon; but the people pressed forward to hear. They swarmed like bees that sally from some hollow cave and flit in countless throng among the spring flowers, bunched in knots and clusters; even so did the mighty multitude pour from ships and tents to the assembly, and range themselves upon the wide-watered shore, while among them ran Wildfire Rumour, messenger of Jove, urging them ever to the fore. Thus they gathered in a pell-mell of mad confusion, and the earth groaned under the tramp of men as the people sought their places. Nine heralds went crying about among them to stay their tumult and bid them listen to the kings, till at last they were got into their several places and ceased their clamour. Then King Agamemnon rose, holding his sceptre. This was the work of Vulcan, who gave it to Jove the son of Saturn. Jove gave it to Mercury, slayer of Argus, guide and guardian. King Mercury gave it to Pelops, the mighty charioteer, and Pelops to Atreus, shepherd of his people. Atreus, when he died, left it to Thyestes, rich in flocks, and Thyestes in his turn left it to be borne by Agamemnon, that he might be lord of all Argos and of the isles. Leaning, then, on his sceptre, he addressed the Argives. "My friends," he said, "heroes, servants of Mars, the hand of heaven has been laid heavily upon me. Cruel Jove gave me his solemn promise that I should sack the city of Priam before returning, but he has played me false, and is now bidding me go ingloriously back to Argos with the loss of much people. Such is the will of Jove, who has laid many a proud city in the dust, as he will yet lay others, for his power is above all. It will be a sorry tale hereafter that an Achaean host, at once so great and valiant, battled in vain against men fewer in number than themselves; but as yet the end is not in sight. Think that the Achaeans and Trojans have sworn to a solemn covenant, and that they have each been numbered- the Trojans by the roll of their householders, and we by companies of ten; think further that each of our companies desired to have a Trojan householder to pour out their wine; we are so greatly more in number that full many a company would have to go without its cup-bearer. But they have in the town allies from other places, and it is these that hinder me from being able to sack the rich city of Ilius. Nine of Jove years are gone; the timbers of our ships have rotted; their tackling is sound no longer. Our wives and little ones at home look anxiously for our coming, but the work that we came hither to do has not been done. Now, therefore, let us all do as I say: let us sail back to our own land, for we shall not take Troy." With these words he moved the hearts of the multitude, so many of them as knew not the cunning counsel of Agamemnon. They surged to and fro like the waves of the Icarian Sea, when the east and south winds break from heaven's clouds to lash them; or as when the west wind sweeps over a field of corn and the ears bow beneath the blast, even so were they swayed as they flew with loud cries towards the ships, and the dust from under their feet rose heavenward. They cheered each other on to draw the ships into the sea; they cleared the channels in front of them; they began taking away the stays from underneath them, and the welkin rang with their glad cries, so eager were they to return. Then surely the Argives would have returned after a fashion that was not fated. But Juno said to Minerva, "Alas, daughter of aegis-bearing Jove, unweariable, shall the Argives fly home to their own land over the broad sea, and leave Priam and the Trojans the glory of still keeping Helen, for whose sake so many of the Achaeans have died at Troy, far from their homes? Go about at once among the host, and speak fairly to them, man by man, that they draw not their ships into the sea." Minerva was not slack to do her bidding. Down she darted from the topmost summits of Olympus, and in a moment she was at the ships of the Achaeans. There she found Ulysses, peer of Jove in counsel, standing alone. He had not as yet laid a hand upon his ship, for he was grieved and sorry; so she went close up to him and said, "Ulysses, noble son of Laertes, are you going to fling yourselves into your ships and be off home to your own land in this way? Will you leave Priam and the Trojans the glory of still keeping Helen, for whose sake so many of the Achaeans have died at Troy, far from their homes? Go about at once among the host, and speak fairly to them, man by man, that they draw not their ships into the sea." Ulysses knew the voice as that of the goddess: he flung his cloak from him and set off to run. His servant Eurybates, a man of Ithaca, who waited on him, took charge of the cloak, whereon Ulysses went straight up to Agamemnon and received from him his ancestral, imperishable staff. With this he went about among the ships of the Achaeans. Whenever he met a king or chieftain, he stood by him and spoke him fairly. "Sir," said he, "this flight is cowardly and unworthy. Stand to your post, and bid your people also keep their places. You do not yet know the full mind of Agamemnon; he was sounding us, and ere long will visit the Achaeans with his displeasure. We were not all of us at the council to hear what he then said; see to it lest he be angry and do us a mischief; for the pride of kings is great, and the hand of Jove is with them." But when he came across any common man who was making a noise, he struck him with his staff and rebuked him, saying, "Sirrah, hold your peace, and listen to better men than yourself. You are a coward and no soldier; you are nobody either in fight or council; we cannot all be kings; it is not well that there should be many masters; one man must be supreme- one king to whom the son of scheming Saturn has given the sceptre of sovereignty over you all." Thus masterfully did he go about among the host, and the people hurried back to the council from their tents and ships with a sound as the thunder of surf when it comes crashing down upon the shore, and all the sea is in an uproar. The rest now took their seats and kept to their own several places, but Thersites still went on wagging his unbridled tongue- a man of many words, and those unseemly; a monger of sedition, a railer against all who were in authority, who cared not what he said, so that he might set the Achaeans in a laugh. He was the ugliest man of all those that came before Troy- bandy-legged, lame of one foot, with his two shoulders rounded and hunched over his chest. His head ran up to a point, but there was little hair on the top of it. Achilles and Ulysses hated him worst of all, for it was with them that he was most wont to wrangle; now, however, with a shrill squeaky voice he began heaping his abuse on Agamemnon. The Achaeans were angry and disgusted, yet none the less he kept on brawling and bawling at the son of Atreus. "Agamemnon," he cried, "what ails you now, and what more do you want? Your tents are filled with bronze and with fair women, for whenever we take a town we give you the pick of them. Would you have yet more gold, which some Trojan is to give you as a ransom for his son, when I or another Achaean has taken him prisoner? or is it some young girl to hide and lie with? It is not well that you, the ruler of the Achaeans, should bring them into such misery. Weakling cowards, women rather than men, let us sail home, and leave this fellow here at Troy to stew in his own meeds of honour, and discover whether we were of any service to him or no. Achilles is a much better man than he is, and see how he has treated him- robbing him of his prize and keeping it himself. Achilles takes it meekly and shows no fight; if he did, son of Atreus, you would never again insult him." Thus railed Thersites, but Ulysses at once went up to him and rebuked him sternly. "Check your glib tongue, Thersites," said be, "and babble not a word further. Chide not with princes when you have none to back you. There is no viler creature come before Troy with the sons of Atreus. Drop this chatter about kings, and neither revile them nor keep harping about going home. We do not yet know how things are going to be, nor whether the Achaeans are to return with good success or evil. How dare you gibe at Agamemnon because the Danaans have awarded him so many prizes? I tell you, therefore- and it shall surely be- that if I again catch you talking such nonsense, I will either forfeit my own head and be no more called father of Telemachus, or I will take you, strip you stark naked, and whip you out of the assembly till you go blubbering back to the ships." On this he beat him with his staff about the back and shoulders till he dropped and fell a-weeping. The golden sceptre raised a bloody weal on his back, so he sat down frightened and in pain, looking foolish as he wiped the tears from his eyes. The people were sorry for him, yet they laughed heartily, and one would turn to his neighbour saying, "Ulysses has done many a good thing ere now in fight and council, but he never did the Argives a better turn than when he stopped this fellow's mouth from prating further. He will give the kings no more of his insolence." Thus said the people. Then Ulysses rose, sceptre in hand, and Minerva in the likeness of a herald bade the people be still, that those who were far off might hear him and consider his council. He therefore with all sincerity and goodwill addressed them thus:- "King Agamemnon, the Achaeans are for making you a by-word among all mankind. They forget the promise they made you when they set out from Argos, that you should not return till you had sacked the town of Troy, and, like children or widowed women, they murmur and would set off homeward. True it is that they have had toil enough to be disheartened. A man chafes at having to stay away from his wife even for a single month, when he is on shipboard, at the mercy of wind and sea, but it is now nine long years that we have been kept here; I cannot, therefore, blame the Achaeans if they turn restive; still we shall be shamed if we go home empty after so long a stay- therefore, my friends, be patient yet a little longer that we may learn whether the prophesyings of Calchas were false or true. "All who have not since perished must remember as though it were yesterday or the day before, how the ships of the Achaeans were detained in Aulis when we were on our way hither to make war on Priam and the Trojans. We were ranged round about a fountain offering hecatombs to the gods upon their holy altars, and there was a fine plane-tree from beneath which there welled a stream of pure water. Then we saw a prodigy; for Jove sent a fearful serpent out of the ground, with blood-red stains upon its back, and it darted from under the altar on to the plane-tree. Now there was a brood of young sparrows, quite small, upon the topmost bough, peeping out from under the leaves, eight in all, and their mother that hatched them made nine. The serpent ate the poor cheeping things, while the old bird flew about lamenting her little ones; but the serpent threw his coils about her and caught her by the wing as she was screaming. Then, when he had eaten both the sparrow and her young, the god who had sent him made him become a sign; for the son of scheming Saturn turned him into stone, and we stood there wondering at that which had come to pass. Seeing, then, that such a fearful portent had broken in upon our hecatombs, Calchas forthwith declared to us the oracles of heaven. 'Why, Achaeans,' said he, 'are you thus speechless? Jove has sent us this sign, long in coming, and long ere it be fulfilled, though its fame shall last for ever. As the serpent ate the eight fledglings and the sparrow that hatched them, which makes nine, so shall we fight nine years at Troy, but in the tenth shall take the town.' This was what he said, and now it is all coming true. Stay here, therefore, all of you, till we take the city of Priam." On this the Argives raised a shout, till the ships rang again with the uproar. Nestor, knight of Gerene, then addressed them. "Shame on you," he cried, "to stay talking here like children, when you should fight like men. Where are our covenants now, and where the oaths that we have taken? Shall our counsels be flung into the fire, with our drink-offerings and the right hands of fellowship wherein we have put our trust? We waste our time in words, and for all our talking here shall be no further forward. Stand, therefore, son of Atreus, by your own steadfast purpose; lead the Argives on to battle, and leave this handful of men to rot, who scheme, and scheme in vain, to get back to Argos ere they have learned whether Jove be true or a liar. For the mighty son of Saturn surely promised that we should succeed, when we Argives set sail to bring death and destruction upon the Trojans. He showed us favourable signs by flashing his lightning on our right hands; therefore let none make haste to go till he has first lain with the wife of some Trojan, and avenged the toil and sorrow that he has suffered for the sake of Helen. Nevertheless, if any man is in such haste to be at home again, let him lay his hand to his ship that he may meet his doom in the sight of all. But, O king, consider and give ear to my counsel, for the word that I say may not be neglected lightly. Divide your men, Agamemnon, into their several tribes and clans, that clans and tribes may stand by and help one another. If you do this, and if the Achaeans obey you, you will find out who, both chiefs and peoples, are brave, and who are cowards; for they will vie against the other. Thus you shall also learn whether it is through the counsel of heaven or the cowardice of man that you shall fail to take the town." And Agamemnon answered, "Nestor, you have again outdone the sons of the Achaeans in counsel. Would, by Father Jove, Minerva, and Apollo, that I had among them ten more such councillors, for the city of King Priam would then soon fall beneath our hands, and we should sack it. But the son of Saturn afflicts me with bootless wranglings and strife. Achilles and I are quarrelling about this girl, in which matter I was the first to offend; if we can be of one mind again, the Trojans will not stave off destruction for a day. Now, therefore, get your morning meal, that our hosts join in fight. Whet well your spears; see well to the ordering of your shields; give good feeds to your horses, and look your chariots carefully over, that we may do battle the livelong day; for we shall have no rest, not for a moment, till night falls to part us. The bands that bear your shields shall be wet with the sweat upon your shoulders, your hands shall weary upon your spears, your horses shall steam in front of your chariots, and if I see any man shirking the fight, or trying to keep out of it at the ships, there shall be no help for him, but he shall be a prey to dogs and vultures." Thus he spoke, and the Achaeans roared applause. As when the waves run high before the blast of the south wind and break on some lofty headland, dashing against it and buffeting it without ceasing, as the storms from every quarter drive them, even so did the Achaeans rise and hurry in all directions to their ships. There they lighted their fires at their tents and got dinner, offering sacrifice every man to one or other of the gods, and praying each one of them that he might live to come out of the fight. Agamemnon, king of men, sacrificed a fat five-year-old bull to the mighty son of Saturn, and invited the princes and elders of his host. First he asked Nestor and King Idomeneus, then the two Ajaxes and the son of Tydeus, and sixthly Ulysses, peer of gods in counsel; but Menelaus came of his own accord, for he knew how busy his brother then was. They stood round the bull with the barley-meal in their hands, and Agamemnon prayed, saying, "Jove, most glorious, supreme, that dwellest in heaven, and ridest upon the storm-cloud, grant that the sun may not go down, nor the night fall, till the palace of Priam is laid low, and its gates are consumed with fire. Grant that my sword may pierce the shirt of Hector about his heart, and that full many of his comrades may bite the dust as they fall dying round him." Thus he prayed, but the son of Saturn would not fulfil his prayer. He accepted the sacrifice, yet none the less increased their toil continually. When they had done praying and sprinkling the barley-meal upon the victim, they drew back its head, killed it, and then flayed it. They cut out the thigh-bones, wrapped them round in two layers of fat, and set pieces of raw meat on the top of them. These they burned upon the split logs of firewood, but they spitted the inward meats, and held them in the flames to cook. When the thigh-bones were burned, and they had tasted the inward meats, they cut the rest up small, put the pieces upon spits, roasted them till they were done, and drew them off; then, when they had finished their work and the feast was ready, they ate it, and every man had his full share, so that all were satisfied. As soon as they had had enough to eat and drink, Nestor, knight of Gerene, began to speak. "King Agamemnon," said he, "let us not stay talking here, nor be slack in the work that heaven has put into our hands. Let the heralds summon the people to gather at their several ships; we will then go about among the host, that we may begin fighting at once." Thus did he speak, and Agamemnon heeded his words. He at once sent the criers round to call the people in assembly. So they called them, and the people gathered thereon. The chiefs about the son of Atreus chose their men and marshalled them, while Minerva went among them holding her priceless aegis that knows neither age nor death. From it there waved a hundred tassels of pure gold, all deftly woven, and each one of them worth a hundred oxen. With this she darted furiously everywhere among the hosts of the Achaeans, urging them forward, and putting courage into the heart of each, so that he might fight and do battle without ceasing. Thus war became sweeter in their eyes even than returning home in their ships. As when some great forest fire is raging upon a mountain top and its light is seen afar, even so as they marched the gleam of their armour flashed up into the firmament of heaven. They were like great flocks of geese, or cranes, or swans on the plain about the waters of Cayster, that wing their way hither and thither, glorying in the pride of flight, and crying as they settle till the fen is alive with their screaming. Even thus did their tribes pour from ships and tents on to the plain of the Scamander, and the ground rang as brass under the feet of men and horses. They stood as thick upon the flower-bespangled field as leaves that bloom in summer. As countless swarms of flies buzz around a herdsman's homestead in the time of spring when the pails are drenched with milk, even so did the Achaeans swarm on to the plain to charge the Trojans and destroy them. The chiefs disposed their men this way and that before the fight began, drafting them out as easily as goatherds draft their flocks when they have got mixed while feeding; and among them went King Agamemnon, with a head and face like Jove the lord of thunder, a waist like Mars, and a chest like that of Neptune. As some great bull that lords it over the herds upon the plain, even so did Jove make the son of Atreus stand peerless among the multitude of heroes. And now, O Muses, dwellers in the mansions of Olympus, tell me- for you are goddesses and are in all places so that you see all things, while we know nothing but by report- who were the chiefs and princes of the Danaans? As for the common soldiers, they were so that I could not name every single one of them though I had ten tongues, and though my voice failed not and my heart were of bronze within me, unless you, O Olympian Muses, daughters of aegis-bearing Jove, were to recount them to me. Nevertheless, I will tell the captains of the ships and all the fleet together. Peneleos, Leitus, Arcesilaus, Prothoenor, and Clonius were captains of the Boeotians. These were they that dwelt in Hyria and rocky Aulis, and who held Schoenus, Scolus, and the highlands of Eteonus, with Thespeia, Graia, and the fair city of Mycalessus. They also held Harma, Eilesium, and Erythrae; and they had Eleon, Hyle, and Peteon; Ocalea and the strong fortress of Medeon; Copae, Eutresis, and Thisbe the haunt of doves; Coronea, and the pastures of Haliartus; Plataea and Glisas; the fortress of Thebes the less; holy Onchestus with its famous grove of Neptune; Arne rich in vineyards; Midea, sacred Nisa, and Anthedon upon the sea. From these there came fifty ships, and in each there were a hundred and twenty young men of the Boeotians. Ascalaphus and Ialmenus, sons of Mars, led the people that dwelt in Aspledon and Orchomenus the realm of Minyas. Astyoche a noble maiden bore them in the house of Actor son of Azeus; for she had gone with Mars secretly into an upper chamber, and he had lain with her. With these there came thirty ships. The Phoceans were led by Schedius and Epistrophus, sons of mighty Iphitus the son of Naubolus. These were they that held Cyparissus, rocky Pytho, holy Crisa, Daulis, and Panopeus; they also that dwelt in Anemorea and Hyampolis, and about the waters of the river Cephissus, and Lilaea by the springs of the Cephissus; with their chieftains came forty ships, and they marshalled the forces of the Phoceans, which were stationed next to the Boeotians, on their left. Ajax, the fleet son of Oileus, commanded the Locrians. He was not so great, nor nearly so great, as Ajax the son of Telamon. He was a little man, and his breastplate was made of linen, but in use of the spear he excelled all the Hellenes and the Achaeans. These dwelt in Cynus, Opous, Calliarus, Bessa, Scarphe, fair Augeae, Tarphe, and Thronium about the river Boagrius. With him there came forty ships of the Locrians who dwell beyond Euboea. The fierce Abantes held Euboea with its cities, Chalcis, Eretria, Histiaea rich in vines, Cerinthus upon the sea, and the rock-perched town of Dium; with them were also the men of Carystus and Styra; Elephenor of the race of Mars was in command of these; he was son of Chalcodon, and chief over all the Abantes. With him they came, fleet of foot and wearing their hair long behind, brave warriors, who would ever strive to tear open the corslets of their foes with their long ashen spears. Of these there came fifty ships. And they that held the strong city of Athens, the people of great Erechtheus, who was born of the soil itself, but Jove's daughter, Minerva, fostered him, and established him at Athens in her own rich sanctuary. There, year by year, the Athenian youths worship him with sacrifices of bulls and rams. These were commanded by Menestheus, son of Peteos. No man living could equal him in the marshalling of chariots and foot soldiers. Nestor could alone rival him, for he was older. With him there came fifty ships. Ajax brought twelve ships from Salamis, and stationed them alongside those of the Athenians. The men of Argos, again, and those who held the walls of Tiryns, with Hermione, and Asine upon the gulf; Troezene, Eionae, and the vineyard lands of Epidaurus; the Achaean youths, moreover, who came from Aegina and Mases; these were led by Diomed of the loud battle-cry, and Sthenelus son of famed Capaneus. With them in command was Euryalus, son of king Mecisteus, son of Talaus; but Diomed was chief over them all. With these there came eighty ships. Those who held the strong city of Mycenae, rich Corinth and Cleonae; Orneae, Araethyrea, and Licyon, where Adrastus reigned of old; Hyperesia, high Gonoessa, and Pellene; Aegium and all the coast-land round about Helice; these sent a hundred ships under the command of King Agamemnon, son of Atreus. His force was far both finest and most numerous, and in their midst was the king himself, all glorious in his armour of gleaming bronze- foremost among the heroes, for he was the greatest king, and had most men under him. And those that dwelt in Lacedaemon, lying low among the hills, Pharis, Sparta, with Messe the haunt of doves; Bryseae, Augeae, Amyclae, and Helos upon the sea; Laas, moreover, and Oetylus; these were led by Menelaus of the loud battle-cry, brother to Agamemnon, and of them there were sixty ships, drawn up apart from the others. Among them went Menelaus himself, strong in zeal, urging his men to fight; for he longed to avenge the toil and sorrow that he had suffered for the sake of Helen. The men of Pylos and Arene, and Thryum where is the ford of the river Alpheus; strong Aipy, Cyparisseis, and Amphigenea; Pteleum, Helos, and Dorium, where the Muses met Thamyris, and stilled his minstrelsy for ever. He was returning from Oechalia, where Eurytus lived and reigned, and boasted that he would surpass even the Muses, daughters of aegis-bearing Jove, if they should sing against him; whereon they were angry, and maimed him. They robbed him of his divine power of song, and thenceforth he could strike the lyre no more. These were commanded by Nestor, knight of Gerene, and with him there came ninety ships. And those that held Arcadia, under the high mountain of Cyllene, near the tomb of Aepytus, where the people fight hand to hand; the men of Pheneus also, and Orchomenus rich in flocks; of Rhipae, Stratie, and bleak Enispe; of Tegea and fair Mantinea; of Stymphelus and Parrhasia; of these King Agapenor son of Ancaeus was commander, and they had sixty ships. Many Arcadians, good soldiers, came in each one of them, but Agamemnon found them the ships in which to cross the sea, for they were not a people that occupied their business upon the waters. The men, moreover, of Buprasium and of Elis, so much of it as is enclosed between Hyrmine, Myrsinus upon the sea-shore, the rock Olene and Alesium. These had four leaders, and each of them had ten ships, with many Epeans on board. Their captains were Amphimachus and Thalpius- the one, son of Cteatus, and the other, of Eurytus- both of the race of Actor. The two others were Diores, son of Amarynces, and Polyxenus, son of King Agasthenes, son of Augeas. And those of Dulichium with the sacred Echinean islands, who dwelt beyond the sea off Elis; these were led by Meges, peer of Mars, and the son of valiant Phyleus, dear to Jove, who quarrelled with his father, and went to settle in Dulichium. With him there came forty ships. Ulysses led the brave Cephallenians, who held Ithaca, Neritum with its forests, Crocylea, rugged Aegilips, Samos and Zacynthus, with the mainland also that was over against the islands. These were led by Ulysses, peer of Jove in counsel, and with him there came twelve ships. Thoas, son of Andraemon, commanded the Aetolians, who dwelt in Pleuron, Olenus, Pylene, Chalcis by the sea, and rocky Calydon, for the great king Oeneus had now no sons living, and was himself dead, as was also golden-haired Meleager, who had been set over the Aetolians to be their king. And with Thoas there came forty ships. The famous spearsman Idomeneus led the Cretans, who held Cnossus, and the well-walled city of Gortys; Lyctus also, Miletus and Lycastus that lies upon the chalk; the populous towns of Phaestus and Rhytium, with the other peoples that dwelt in the hundred cities of Crete. All these were led by Idomeneus, and by Meriones, peer of murderous Mars. And with these there came eighty ships. Tlepolemus, son of Hercules, a man both brave and large of stature, brought nine ships of lordly warriors from Rhodes. These dwelt in Rhodes which is divided among the three cities of Lindus, Ielysus, and Cameirus, that lies upon the chalk. These were commanded by Tlepolemus, son of Hercules by Astyochea, whom he had carried off from Ephyra, on the river Selleis, after sacking many cities of valiant warriors. When Tlepolemus grew up, he killed his father's uncle Licymnius, who had been a famous warrior in his time, but was then grown old. On this he built himself a fleet, gathered a great following, and fled beyond the sea, for he was menaced by the other sons and grandsons of Hercules. After a voyage. during which he suffered great hardship, he came to Rhodes, where the people divided into three communities, according to their tribes, and were dearly loved by Jove, the lord, of gods and men; wherefore the son of Saturn showered down great riches upon them. And Nireus brought three ships from Syme- Nireus, who was the handsomest man that came up under Ilius of all the Danaans after the son of Peleus- but he was a man of no substance, and had but a small following. And those that held Nisyrus, Crapathus, and Casus, with Cos, the city of Eurypylus,